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Ñtqxfc ghj[jlbn htubcnhfwbz yf V rjyathtywb. "Ýktrnhjyyfz njhujdkz – 2009" - rhegytqitt cj,snbt ujlf d bynthytn-rjvvthwbb.
×nj,s ds vjukb cjcnfdbnm ghtlcnfdktybt j cjlth;fybb rjyathtywbb, vs
ge,kbretv bp,hfyyst ljrkfls II "Ýktrnhjyyjq njhujdkb", ghjitlitq d 2006
ujle. Êjytxyj, pf nhb ujlf d jykfqy-njhujdkt gjzdbkbcm yjdst bltb b
yfhf,jnrb, yj ytrjnjhst ljrkfls bp rjkktrwbb Oborot.ru cj[hfybkb cdj.
wtyyjcnm b eybrfkmyjcnm.
Ñfvfz frnefkmyfz byajhvfwbz b cdt;bq jgsn ecgtiys[
bynthytn-vfufpbyjd ,elen jpdextys d jrnz,ht 2009 ujlf, yf V rjyathtywbb
"Ýktrnhjyyfz njhujdkz". Ít gjhf kb pfhtubcnhbhjdfnmcz?
Äjrkflxbr: ×tcnyj ujdjhz, z yt ujnjdbk ybrfrjq ghtptynfwbb.
Ífcrjkmrj z gjybvf., pltcm cj,hfkbcm k.lb uke,jrj ghfrnbxyst, b z
ghjcnj gjcnfhf.cm – yfcrjkmrj 'nj d vjtq rjvgtntywbb – jndtnbnm yf
djghjcs, rjnjhst djkye.n ghtlcnfdbntktq bynthytn-njhujdkb d gkfyt
dpfbvjltqcndbz c gjnht,bntkzvb.
Âjghjc bp pfkf: Êfr ds vj;tnt ghjrjvvtynbhjdfnm ghj,ktvs c
djpdhfnjv njdfhf gjregfntkzvb bynthytn-vfufpbyjd? Îcj,tyyj frnefkmyj
'nj ghb hf,jnt c gjregfntkzvb bp jnlfktyys[ htubjyjd – r ghbvthe, c ntv
;t Äfkmybv Âjcnjrjv. Â ckexft ghjlf;b njdfhf ytyflkt;fotuj rfxtcndf,
dct hfc[jls yf ljcnfdre nelf b j,hfnyj (ytvfktymrbt!) ytctn ghjlfdtw,
[jnz pfxfcne. dbyjdfn d 'njv ghjbpdjlbntkm. Àyfkjubxyfz ghj,ktvf
djpybrftn d ckexft ufhfynbqyjuj htvjynf.
Äjrkflxbr: Íbrfrjq ghj,ktvs pltcm ytn, gjdthmnt vyt, ds cfvb
ct,t eckj;yztnt 'nb djghjcs. Ïthdjt pfrk.xftncz d njv, xnj, dj-gthds[,
vs bc[jlbv bp njuj, xnj ctujlyz e yfc yt nfr vyjuj htfkmys[ cbnefwbq,
rjulf htxm bltn j djpdhfnt njdfhjd bvtyyj d gjhzlrt ghfdjghbvtytybz
cnfnmb 26.1 Çfrjyf "Î pfobnt ghfd gjnht,bntkz" ("Äbcnfywbjyysq cgjcj, ghjlf;b njdfhjd" – ghbv.htl.).
À tckb tcnm, nj 'nj yt yjcbn ctujlyz cbcntvysq [fhfrnth. Åckb vs
ujdjhbv j, bplth;rf[ b j cntgtyb hbcrf ghtlghbybvfntkz, rjnjhsq
pfybvftncz ghjlf;tq njdfhjd lbcnfywbjyysv cgjcj,jv, d njv xbckt xthtp
Èynthytn, d njv xbckt, nt[ybxtcrb ckj;ys[ njdfhjd, yflj crfpfnm, xnj e
yfc tcnm cgtwbfkmyst ghfdbkf ghjlf;b nt[ ;t cfvs[ ckj;yj,snjds[
njdfhjd, rjnjhst pfrhtgktys e yfc d 55-jv gjcnfyjdktybb ("Ïthtxtym
ytghjljdjkmcndtyys[ njdfhjd yflkt;fotuj rfxtcndf, yt gjlkt;fob[
djpdhfne bkb j,vtye yf fyfkjubxysq njdfh lheub[ hfpvthf, ajhvs,
uf,fhbnf, afcjyf, hfcwdtnrb bkb rjvgktrnfwbb" – ghbv. htl.).
Ìs bc[jlbv bp njuj xnj tckb ghtlghbybvfntkm, cjpyfntkmyj jceotcndkztn
htfkbpfwb. njdfhjd lbcnfywbjyysv cgjcj,jv njq ;t ckj;yj,snjdjq nt[ybrb,
jy ljk;ty ct,t cjdthityyj xtnrj jcjpyfdfnm, xnj lf, e ytuj vjuen
djpybryenm nfrbt ghfdjdst gjcktlcndbz. È rbdfnm pltcm yf rjuj-nj, xnj
djn e yfc djpybrf.n nfrbt ghj,ktvs d cdzpb c ntv, xnj tcnm nfrjt ghfdj
gjnht,bntkz – 'nj ,eltn ghjcnj ytrjhhtrnyj.
Âjghjc bp pfkf: Ïhb djpdhfnt njdfhf xfcnj djpybrf.n ghj,ktvs c
ufhfynbqysvb nfkjyfvb, afrnbxtcrb ghbdjlzobt r njve, xnj djpdhfotyysq
njdfh, lf;t yflkt;fotuj rfxtcndj, gjnjv nhelyj ghjlfnm. Êfr ds 'nj
ghjrjvvtynbhetnt?
Äjrkflxbr: Ó yfc ybult, yb d jlyjv yjhvfnbdyjv ljrevtynt ytn
gjkj;tybz j njv, xnj ufhfynbqysq nfkjy – 'nj ytrbq cgtwbfkmysq,
ghjyevthjdfyysq, ghjiyehjdfyysq ljrevtyn, rjnjhsq ljk;ty bvtnm
bcrk.xbntkmyj nfre. ajhve, nfrjt cjlth;fybt b nfr lfktt, jngtxfnfyysq
yf pjkjnjq ,evfut d cfvjq kexitq nbgjuhfabb b n.l. b n.g. Ítn e yfc
nfrb[ nht,jdfybq.
Âs vj;tnt dsgecrfnm ufhfynbqysq nfkjy d k.,jv ajhvt, k.,juj dblf,
k.,juj wdtnf, k.,juj hfpvthf. È gj'njve ybrfrb[ ghj,ktv pltcm ytn – yb
c tuj pfgjkytybtv, yb c tuj fyyekbhjdfybtv b n.l. Ítn 'nb[ ghj,ktv,
gjdthmnt vyt. Åckb rnj-nj dfv ghtl]zdkztn ghtntypbb gj 'njve djghjce,
lfdfqnt ,eltv hfp,bhfnmcz gj rf;ljve rjyrhtnyjve ckexf.. ß bvt. d dble,
tckb e dfc ghtntypbb djpybrf.n r dfv d 'njv fcgtrnt cj cnjhjys
rjynhjkbhe.ob[ jhufyjd, d njv xbckt b cj cnjhjys vjb[ rjkktu.
Âjghjc bp pfkf: Ítn, ghtntypbb djpybrf.n bcrk.xbntkmyj cj cnjhjys gjnht,bntktq.
Äjrkflxbr: À gjnht,bntkzv ye;yj j,]zcyznm dct 'nb djghjcs.
Äfkmit, z yt crfpfk jxtym df;ye. dtom, bpdbybnt, ctreyljxre, ghjcnj
[jntk ,s rjcyenmcz df;yjuj yfghfdktybz yfitq ltzntkmyjcnb, rjnjhjt vs
cnfhftvcz frnbdyj hfpdbdfnm, exbnsdfz yjde. cnhernehe Ðjcgjnht,yflpjhf.
Îuhjvyjt xbckj ghj,ktv kt;bn d gkjcrjcnb ytj,hfpjdfyyjcnb,
ytghjcdtotyyjcnb yfib[ gjnht,bntktq, ytcvjnhz yf nj, xnj e yfc tcnm
cnfnmz 3-z pfrjyf, rjnjhfz jghtltkztn b ufhfynbhetn gj pfrjye
djpvj;yjcnm cjjndtncnde.otuj byajhvbhjdfybz b ghjcdtotybz gjnht,bntktq
xthtp hfpyst vt[fybpvs, hfpyst c[tvs. È Ðjcgjnht,yflpjh ctujlyz
jghj,etn gbkjnysq ghjtrn d Ïthvcrjv rhft d dblt cjplfybz
rjycekmnfwbjyys[ wtynhjd lkz gjnht,bntktq gj j,hfpe b gjlj,b. njuj, xnj
tcnm d wbdbkbpjdfyys[ cnhfyf[, njq ;t cfvjq Ãthvfybb. Ìs frnbdyj
cjnhelybxftv gj 'njve djghjce c uthvfycrjq cnjhjyjq, e yfc tcnm
cjdvtcnysq ghjtrn gj 'njve djghjce, lkz njuj xnj,s xthtp jghtltktyyjt
dhtvz dsqnb yf rfxtcndtyyj yjdsq ehjdtym gjnht,bntkmcrjuj j,hfpjdfybz,
gjnht,bntkmcrjuj ghjcdtotybz yfib[ ghjcns[ uhf;lfy, yfib[ ghjcns[
gjnht,bntktq. È rjulf vs 'nj cltkftv – lf, 'nj ltkj yt jlyjuj ujlf, -
vs ghbltv r njve, xnj ght;lt, xtv xnj-nj pfrfpfnm, ght;lt xtv dcnegbnm
d ghfdjjnyjitybz c ghtlghbybvfntkzvb, yfi gjnht,bntkm nsczxe hfp
gjlevftn, xtv tve 'nj uhjpbn, r rjve tve d kexitq cntgtyb j,hfnbnmcz pf
ntv bkb bysv njdfhjv yf jcyjdt byajhvfwbb, rjnjhfz [fhfrnthbpetn b
htpekmnfns ltzntkmyjcnb gj rjynhjk. b yflpjhe, cj cnjhjys
rjynhjkbhe.ob[ jhufyjd. È gj'njve 'nj yfghfdktybt, cdzpfyyjt c
ghjcdtotybtv gjnht,bntkz, c b[ byajhvbhjdfybtv gj dctve cgtrnhe njuj,
xnj ctujlyz nfr bkb byfxt cjgencndetn djghjcfv dpfbvjjnyjitybq yf
gjnht,bntkmcrjv hsyrt c njxrb phtybz jcjpyfyyjuj ds,jhf njdfhjd, c
njxrb phtybz evtybz jhbtynbhjdfnmcz d njv vyjujj,hfpbb njdfhjd, rjnjhjt
ctujlyz bvttn vtcnj ,snm, - jxtym df;yj.
Ìs cvjnhbv lfkmit b gjcnfhftvcz cjdvtcnbnm hf,jne 'nb[ rjycekmnfwbjyys[
wtynhjd c gjnht,bntkmcrbvb 'rcgthnbpfvb, rjnjhst ,elen pfybvfnmcz yt
njkmrj hfphtitybtv rjyakbrnys[ cbnefwbq d hfvrf[ htfkbpfwbb njq ;t
cfvjq cnfnmb 18-q pfrjyf ("Ïjcktlcndbz ghjlf;b njdfhf ytyflkt;fotuj rfxtcndf" – ghbv.htl.),
yj b 'nj ,eltn ytrbv vt[fybpvjv ghjdtltybz chfdybntkmys[ cvjnhjd
rfxtcndf, ntcnbhjdfybz njdfhjd b n.l. b n.g. ß yflt.cm, xnj e yfc d
'njv gkfyt gjzdzncz yjdst ljcnb;tybz, ecgt[b b vs ujnjds gj 'njve
djghjce cjnhelybxfnm c ghtlcnfdbntkzvb ghtlghbybvfntktq cfvjuj hfpyjuj
ghjabkz.
Âjghjc bp pfkf: À tckb e yfc tcnm jabc, tcnm vfufpby, tcnm yfib
rjjhlbyfns, tcnm dc¸. ×tkjdtr [jxtn, xnj,s tve ljcnfdbkb njdfh, tve
ytrjulf t[fnm. Ýnj nj;t ,eltn cxbnfnmcz lbcnfywbjyyjq njhujdktq?
Äjrkflxbr: Ýnj, rcnfnb, tot jlyf ghj,ktvf ghbrkflyjuj cdjqcndf.
Ò.t. dct-nfrb, ljcnfdrf njdfhjd yf ljv rfr ljgjkybntkmyfz eckeuf,
rjnjhfz vj;tn jrfpsdfnmcz bkb yf djpvtplyjq bkb yf ,tpdjpvtplyjq
jcyjdt, - xnj 'nj nfrjt? Ýnj nf ;t cfvfz lbcnfywbjyyfz njhujdkz bkb 'nj
– kbim 'ktvtyn cthdbcf, rjnjhsq ghbpyfy cgjcj,cndjdfnm htfkbpfwbb
njdfhjd gjnht,bntkzv b j,tcgtxbdfnm tve rjvajhnyst eckjdbz ghbj,htntybt
'njuj njdfhf? Ìs ,eltv levfnm, xnj,s gjghj,jdfnm hfpdtcnb 'nb gjyznbz
rfrbv-nj j,hfpjv. Íj 'nj [jhjij, rjulf jhufybpfwbz bvttn b cnfwbjyfhye.
njhujde. ctnm, b bcgjkmpetn djpvj;yjcnb Èynthytnf lkz ghjldb;tybz cdjb[
njdfhjd. Ýnj, vj;tn ,snm, ctujlyz cfvsq jgnbvfkmysq dfhbfyn. È, rcnfnb,
r 'nbv [jpzqcnde.obv ce,]trnfv e yfc vtymit dctuj ghtntypbq, gjnjve xnj
jyb, rfr ghfdbkj, jnrhsns lkz j,otybz, jnrhsns lkz [jhjitq, gjpbnbdyjq
rhbnbrb, jnrhsns lkz rjynhjkz, lkz yflpjhf, b jyb jcjpyf.n dct 'nb
ghfdjdst gjcktlcndbz, c rjnjhsvb jyb vjuen cnjkryenmcz.
Âjghjc bp pfkf: Åckb gjxbnfnm yjdjcnb gjcktlytuj vtczwf, gjckt
njuj rfr dsitk pfrjy j, fdnjhcrb[ ghfdf[, djrheu jlyjuj bpdtcnyjuj
bynthytn-htcehcf, rjnjhsq, pfybvftn dnjhjt gjkj;tybt d vbht gj ghjlf;fv
mp3, jxtym bynthtcyfz ctqxfc cbnefwbz: Çfgfl ujdjhbn, xnj jyb xthyst,
cthst b djj,ot b[ yflj pfrhsdfnm, f jyb endth;lf.n, xnj ,tkst b
geibcnst, f ghb 'njv ujcelfhcndj rfr-nj yf,k.lftn cj cnjhjys.
Ïjkexftncz, xnj d pfrjyt tcnm kfptqrb. Âjghjc djn d xtv: ,eltn kb
rjulf-yb,elm d ,kb;fqitt dhtvz ujcelfhcndj dscrfpsdfnmcz d nfrjq zcyjq
ajhvt, rnj tcnm ,tksq, rnj tcnm cthsq b, djj,ot, rjulf 'nf ytgjyznyfz
cbnefwbz ghjgfltn? Êjulf jcnfyencz bkb njkmrj cthst, bkb njkmrj ,tkst.
È djj,ot, yflj kb 'nbv pfrjyjndjhxtcndjv pfybvfnmcz?
Äjrkflxbr: Åckb ds ujdjhbnt j pfobnt fdnjhcrb[ ghfd, nj pltcm
rfrfz cbnefwbz – ltkj d njv, xnj c ghbyznbtv xtndthnjq xfcnb
Ãhf;lfycrjuj Êjltrcf (gjcdzotyf htuekbhjdfyb. jnyjitybq d catht byntkktrnefkmyjq cj,cndtyyjcnb, dcnegbn d cbke d zydfht 2008 ujlf – ghbv.htl.)
yf hsyrt vj;tn djpybryenm ghbywbgbfkmyj yjdfz cbnefwbz, d njv xbckt b
dj dpfbvjjnyjitybz[ ujcelfhcndf b ,bpytcf d djghjct j[hfys fdnjhcrb[ b
cvt;ys[ ghfd. Åckb 'nj d rjytxyjv bnjut ghjbpjqltn, tckb e yfc ,elen
jnvtytys cgtwbfkmyst pfrjys, rjnjhst ctujlyz tcnm d 'njq xfcnb, d njv
xbckt pfrjy j, fdnjhcrjv b cvt;yjv ghfdt – nj ytj,[jlbvj bc[jlbnm bp
njuj, xnj tcnm jghtltktyyst ghfdjdst, fcgtrns, jnhf,jnfyyst ghfdjdst
nt[yjkjubb, pfrhtgktyyst rjywtgnefkmyj d njv ;t cfvjv Ãhf;lfycrjv
Êjltrct. È cjukfcyj bv pfobnf yfheityys[ uhf;lfycrb[ ghfd
jceotcndkztncz celjv. È kbim d ckexfz[, ecnfyjdktyys[ pfrjyjv, d
flvbybcnhfnbdyjv gjhzlrt, xthtp nt vt[fybpvs, rjnjhst xfot dctuj
htfkbpetn ujcelfhcndj xthtp cdjb rjynhjkmyst aeyrwbb, yflpjhyst aeyrwbb.
Ïj'njve, tckb vs ujdjhbv j nfrjuj hjlf jnyjitybz[ b ghtntypbz[ cj
cnjhjys fvthbrfywtd, hfpyjuj hjlf dtof[, rjnjhst rfcf.ncz pfobns
fdnjhcrb[ ghfd, d njv xbckt, d djghjct bynthytn-nt[yjkjubq, htfkbpfwbb
njq ;t felbj b dbltjghjlerwbb b ghjxtt, z yt bcrk.xf., xnj djj,ot 'nj
vj;tn cjdthityyj gjkyjcnm. bpvtybnm cbnefwb.. Ãjcelfhcndj eqltn d
cnjhjye jn 'nb[ djghjcjd, 'nj cnfytn bcrk.xbntkmyj ghj,ktvjq
ghfdjj,kflfntkz - dpfbvjjnyjitybz c ntvb htcehcfvb, c ntvb ce,]trnfvb,
rjnjhst pfybvf.ncz, crf;tv nfr, ytcfyrwbjybhjdfyysv bcgjkmpjdfybtv b[
byntkktrnefkmyjq cj,cndtyyjcnb. È 'nj, gj ,jkmijve cxtne, ghfdbkmyj.
Âjghjc bp pfkf: Êjulf ,eltn ghbyzn b ,eltn kb ghbyzn pfrjy, htuekbhe.obq njhujdk. jnltkmysvb dblfvb njdfhfvb xthtp Èynthytn?
Äjrkflxbr: À pfrjy ctujlyz 'nj e;t htuekbhetn, dj-gthds[.
Âj-dnjhs[, 'nj vj;tn ,snm yt pfrjy, f gjlpfrjyysq frn, rjnjhsq ,eltn
jghtltkznm ghfdbkf b jcj,tyyjcnb ghjlf;b nt[ bkb bys[ njdfhjd. Ïj
pfrjye, yfghbvth, e;t jghtltktyj, xnj fkrjujkmyfz ghjlerwbz vj;tn
ghjlfdfnmcz njkmrj d cnfwbjyfhyjq njhujdjq ctnb, ult tcnm cjdthityyj
rjyrhtnysq vbybvfkmysq yf,jh njhujdjq gkjoflb b n.l., xnj d ghbywbgt
bcrk.xftn djpvj;yjcnm htfkbpfwbb tt xthtp Èynthytn. Ñtujlyz vyjubt
djghjcs e;t ehtuekbhjdfys b jnhf,jnfys. È vs ujdjhbv j njv, xnj vs
cyjdf dsqltv yf nj, crf;tv, tckb vs ,eltv htuekbhjdfnm ghjlf;e, njq ;t
cfvjq idtqyjq ghjlerwbb: jlt;ls, j,edb b n.l.
Åckb vs bc[jlbv bp njuj, xnj ctujlyz e yfc ghfdbkf ghjlf;b jnltkmys[
dbljd njdfhjd cjhbtynbhjdfys nfrbv j,hfpjv, xnj bpyfxfkmyj gjnht,bntk.,
ghbj,htnf.otve nt ;t cfvst idtqyst bpltkbz, ujkjdyst e,jhs, j,edm,
ljk;ys ,snm j,tcgtxtys j,jheljdfybtv njhujds[ pfkjd: ghbvthjxysvb
rf,byfvb, nfyrtnrfvb lkz ghbvthrb j,edb, pthrfkfvb b n.l., xnj d
njhujdjv pfkt jlt;lf ljk;yf ,snm hfpdtifyf gj gjkjdjphfcnyjve ghbywbge
– j rfrjq bynthytn-njhujdkt lfyyjq uheggjq njdfhjd vs djj,ot ujdjhbv?
Òj tcnm gjkexftncz, xnj 'nf yjhvf jyf e;t juhfybxbdftn djpvj;yjcnm
ghbvtytybz lfyyjuj vtnjlf ghjldb;tybz njdfhjd. Õjnz vj;tn ,snm, d
jnyjitybb 'njq njdfhyjq uheggs 'nj f,cjk.nyj yt jghfdlfyj. È vs ,eltv
cvjnhtnm yf 'nj, d njv xbckt, b exbnsdfnm vytybt ,bpytcf gj 'njve
djghjce.
Ðtgkbrf bp pfkf: ×nj rfcftncz jykfqyjdjq njhujdkb b njq
cbnefwbb, rjnjhfz ckj;bkfcm, d xfcnyjcnb, yf vepsrfkmyjv hsyrt. Ó yfc
ltqcndbntkmyj ytrjnjhst dtob yt ehtuekbhjdfys, yj nfv rfrfz cbnefwbz: c
jlyjq cnjhjys, byjcnhfyws ;t ltkf.n gjkbnbxtcrbt pfzdktybz, f gj
hjccbqcrjve pfrjyjlfntkmcnde, lf b gj pfrjyjlfntkmcnde k.,jq lheujq
wbdbkbpjdfyyjq cnhfys, d xtv ujcelfhcndj dshf;ftn cdj. gjpbwb.,
jnyjcbntkmyj njhujdkb rjynhfafrnyjq ghjlerwbtq? Ïhfdjj,kflfntkm ljk;ty
ghtl]zdbnm pfzdktybt d egjkyjvjxtyyst jhufys – kb,j jy d cel
j,hfoftncz, kb,j d ghfdjj[hfybntkmyst jhufys, b njkmrj c 'njuj vjvtynf,
ujcelfhcndj gentv ecnfyjdktyyjq ghjwtlehs dshf;ftn cdj. gjpbwb. –
pfrjyyf ltzntkmyjcnm njuj bkb byjuj vfufpbyf kb,j ytpfrjyyf. Â yfitq ;t
cbnefwbb ghtl]zdktyyst j,dbytybz, rjnjhst ,skb hfccvjnhtys ghjrehfnehjq
– 'nj rfcfkjcm cfqnf AllOfMP3.com - 'nb j,dbytybz ,skb ghbpyfys
ytj,jcyjdfyysvb. Íf ctujlyz cbnefwbz ckj;bkfcm nfrbv j,hfpjv, n.t. yf
ctujlyz ujcelfhcndj lftn nfrjq djn jndtn.
È d k.,jv ckexft, ye;yj gjybvfnm ghbywbgbfkmyjt jnkbxbt: byjcnhfyws
[jntkb ,s, xnj,s pltcm byntkktrnefkmyfz cj,cndtyyjcnm b[ pfobofkfcm ,tp
b[ cj,cndtyyjuj exfcnbz, xnj,s ujcelfhcndj dpzkj yf ct,z 'ne
j,zpfyyjcnm, ytpfdbcbvj jn ghfdjj,kflfntkz. Íj 'nj ;t ,bpytc, n.t.
xtkjdtr, rjnjhsq [jxtn pfobofnm cdjb ghfdf, ljk;ty ghbkfufnm r 'njve
rfrbt-nj ecbkbz. À jyb ,s [jntkb, xnj,s 'nb ecbkbz ,skb gthtkj;tys yf
ujcelfhcndj. Íf ctujlyz ujcelfhcndj yt cxbnftn 'nj ytj,[jlbvsv -
pfobofnm xmb-nj bynthtcs, tckb cfvb ghfdjj,kflfntkb b[ yt pfobof.n.
Âjghjc bp pfkf: Âs egjvbyfkb, xnj jcyjdyfz ghj,ktvf – 'nj d
bltynbabrfwbb "cths[" ghjlfdwjd. Òj tcnm, cnhflf.n ghjlfdws, rjnjhst
yjhvfkmyj b wbdbkbpjdfyyj dtlen njhujdk., cnhflf.n gjregfntkb, rjnjhst
yfnfkrbdf.ncz yf nfrb[ ghjlfdwjd. Âjghjc cktle.obq: hfccvfnhbdfkb kb ds
djpvj;yjcnm cjplfybz lj,hjdjkmyjuj httcnhf c gjcktle.obv ibhjrbv
byajhvbhjdfybtv gjnht,bntktq j njv, xnj e ghjlfdwjd, gthtxbcktyys[ d
'njv httcnht, gjregfnm ,tpjgfcyj. È cjjndtncndtyyj htiftncz jcyjdyfz
ghj,ktvf, rjnjhfz tcnm – bltynbabrfwbz ghjlfdwf. Ïjcrjkmre httcnh
lj,hjdjkmysq, ytn ghj,ktv d rfrb[-nj pkjegjnht,ktybz[ cj cnjhjys
xbyjdybrjd, yj c lheujq cnjhjys, pfoboftncz gjnht,bntkm.
Äjrkflxbr: Ìs yt hfccvfnhbdfkb b yt ,eltv 'nj hfccvfnhbdfnm,
gjnjve xnj 'nj yt yfif aeyrwbz - pfybvfnmcz ghjldb;tybtv b
kj,,bhjdfybtv bynthtcjd lj,hjcjdtcnys[ ghtlghbybvfntktq b cjplfdfnm bv
htrkfve, rfrbvb ,s wtkzvb ,kfujhjlysvb vs yb herjdjlcndjdfkbcm c njxrb
phtybz pfobns gjnht,bntkz. Ýnj dfib djghjcs, 'nj dfib djpvj;yjcnb,
rjnjhst ds vj;tnt htfkbpjdsdfnm xthtp cbcntve j,]tlbytybq, fccjwbfwbq b
n.l., gjchtlcndjv ctnb Èynthytn, gjchtlcndjv cjwbfkmyjq htrkfvs. Ýnj
dfib djghjcs, 'nj yt aeyrwbb ujcelfhcndf.
Âjghjc bp pfkf: Ít gkfybhetncz kb dytlhbnm kbwtypbhjdfybt bynthytn-vfufpbyjd?
Äjrkflxbr: Åckb vs c dfvb pfujdjhbkb j kbwtypbhjdfybb bynthytn-
vfufpbyjd, rjnjhs[ ctujlyz rfr .hblbxtcrjuj gjyznbz djj,ot ytn, vs
gkfdyj ds[jlbv yf djghjc j ytj,[jlbvjcnb kbwtypbhjdfybz hjpybxyjq
njhujdkb. Íflj kb 'nj bkb ytn? Ýnj djghjc lbcreccbjyysq b ctujlyz
ujcelfhcndj ujdjhbn j njv, xnj, dj dczrjv ckexft yf lfyyjv 'nfgt, 'njn
djghjc yt hfccvfnhbdftncz. À tckb ds [jnbnt kbwtypbhjdfnm hjpybxye.
njhujdk. rfr dbl ltzntkmyjcnb cj dctvb dsntrf.obvb gjcktlcndbzvb, 'nj
djj,ot vj;tn d rjhyt gjvtyznm cbnefwb. yf hsyrt. Íflj kb 'nj?
ß e;t yt ujdjh., j dctdjpvj;ys[ vt[fybpvf[ jwtyrb lj,hjcjdtcnyjcnb
ghtlghbybvfntktq, rjnjhst ctqxfc ceotcnde.n. Âczrjuj hjlf rjyrehcs:
"Ìfhrf ujlf", "Ðjc,htyl" b n.l. b n.g. Ïhjdjlbncz juhjvyjt rjkbxtcndj
hfpyjuj hjlf PR-frwbq, rjnjhst ytcen d ct,t jghtltktyysq gjpbnbd c
njxrb phtybz ghjldb;tybz lj,hjcjdtcnys[ ghtlghbybvfntktq yf hsyjr, b[
gjpbwbjybhjdfybt rfr ujnjds[ rj dczrjuj hjlf cjnhelybxtcnde c
gjnht,bntkzvb b n.l. Çltcm ajhvs b vtnjls vjuen bcgjkmpjdfnmcz ,snm
cfvst hfpyst.
Âjghjc bp pfkf: Ó vtyz djghjc ghj rjhhtrnyjcnm wtys yf cfqnt.
Ìj;tn ghjbpjqnb cbnefwbz, jcj,tyyj tckb fccjhnbvtyn dtkbr b ljcnbuftn
ytcrjkmrb[ nsczx gjpbwbq, rjulf bp-pf ghjuhfvvyjuj c,jz bkb jib,rb
flvbybcnhfnjhf wtyf yf rfrjq-nj njdfh ,skf erfpfyf ytdthyj. Ïhj[jlbn
yjxm, k.lb ghb[jlzn d bynthytn-vfufpby yf hf,jne b dblzn, xnj e yb[
cltkfyj 100-200 pfrfpjd yf lfyye. vjltkm, e rjnjhjq ,skf erfpfyf
ytrjhhtrnyfz wtyf. Ífxbyf.ncz ghtntypbb jn gjregfntktq. Êjulf ns
yfxbyftim gbcfnm: "Èpdbybnt, ,sk ghjuhfvvysq c,jq", - jyb nht,e.n
ghjlfnm gj pfzdktyyjq wtyt, ujdjhzn, xnj cltkf.n screenshot, gjqlen d
cel b n.l. ×nj ltkfnm d 'njv ckexft?
Äjrkflxbr: Âjghjc ljcnfnjxyj cgjhysq, gjnjve xnj nfrfz cbnefwbz
vj;tn djpybryenm yt njkmrj d Èynthytnt, yj b d j,sxyjq cnfwbjyfhyjq
njhujdjq ctnb, rjulf ghjlfdtw crf;tn: "ß ytghfdbkmyj erfpfk wtye yf
wtyybrt, cgenfk bkb yt ljgbcfk jlby yjkm". Â lfyyjv ckexft rf;lfz
cnjhjyf yt kbityf djpvj;yjcnb ljrfpsdfnm ghfdjvthyjcnm cdjb[
nht,jdfybq, cdjtq gjpbwbb b d k.,jv ckexft, tckb ,eltn cgjhyfz cbnefwbz
jyf ,eltn hfphtifnmcz bcrk.xbntkmyj d celt,yjv gjhzlrt.
Âjghjcs c,jz d nt[ybrt ghb ljdtltybb byajhvfwbb yt htuekbhe.ncz yf
pfrjyjlfntkmyjv ehjdyt. Òen vjuen cfvst hfpyst cbnefwbb d pfdbcbvjcnb
jn njuj, pfrk.xbkb kb ds ljujdjh c rjvgfybtq, rjnjhfz ghtljcnfdkztn
cjjndtncnde.obt eckeub, j ghjldb;tybb dfitq ghjlerwbb xthtp Èynthytn,
bkb ;t ds cfvb 'nbv pfybvftntcm. Âs vj;tnt ghtl]zdbnm htuhtccyst bcrb
rjvgfybb, gj dbyt rjnjhjq 'nj ghjbpjikj. Òen vjuen ,snm cfvst hfpyst
j,cnjzntkmcndf, cfvst hfpyst fhuevtyns, gj'njve tckb vs ,eltv e[jlbnm d
nfrbt ltnfkb, nj vs dsqltv yf cfvst hfpyst cbnefwbb, b b[ vj;tn ,snm
jxtym vyjuj.
Ðtgkbrf bp pfkf: Çltcm, yfdthyj, yflj htifnm nfr, xnj tckb pfrfp
gjlndth;lty ghjlfdwjv, dcnegftn d cbke ljujdjh-jathnf, f tckb pfrfp tot
yt gjlndth;lty, nj ybrfrb[ celt,ys[ pltcm bcrjd ,snm yt ljk;yj.
Äjrkflxbr: Ìs yt vj;tv juhfybxbnm ghfdj gjnht,bntkz j,hfofnmcz d
cel. Åckb jy cxbnftn, xnj tuj ghfdf yfheityj, jy vj;tn b[ jncnfbdfnm d
celt,yjv gjhzlrt.
Âjghjc bp pfkf: Ìs ctqxfc j,ce;lftv jxtym vyjuj dctuj xnj ,eltn,
xnj ds ,eltnt hf,jnfnm yfl nfrbvb-nj ghjtrnfvb. À yf lfyysq vjvtyn, xtv
herjdjlcndjdfnmcz?
Äjrkflxbr: Ñtqxfc njhujdkz c bcgjkmpjdfybtv Èynthytnf
htuekbhetncz j,obvb gjkj;tybzvb, ght;lt dctuj njuj ;t cfvjuj pfrjyf j
pfobnt ghfd gjnht,bntkz b njq ;t cfvjq cnfnmtq 26.1.
Äf;t tckb vs bvttv cbnefwb., ghb rjnjhjq gjnht,bntkm ghbj,htk yt njn
njdfh bkb tve dsckfkb, cjpyfntkmyj bkb ytcjpyfntkmyj, gj gjxnt bkb tot
rfrbvb-nj cgjcj,fvb ljcnfdbkb, yt njn njdfh, d egfrjdrt, rjnjhe. d
vjvtyn gjkextybz jy yt jnrhsk, yj ghb 'njv bvtkf vtcnj ,snm
ghtldfhbntkmyfz jgkfnf – d k.,jv ckexft, e ytuj tcnm gjntywbfkmyfz
djpvj;yjcnm b ghfdj d ctvblytdysq chjr dthyenm njdfh ,tp j,]zcytybz
ghbxby. Ýnj rfr jlby bp dfhbfynjd hfpdbnbz cj,snbq. Îgznm ;t, d k.,jv
ckexft, dct, xnj rfcftncz ctujlyz j,cnjzntkmcnd pfrk.xtybz ljujdjhjd
regkb-ghjlf;b - jyb dct ghjgbcfys ctujlyz, dct ghjgbcfys b dct
htukfvtynbhjdfys, d njv ;t cfvjv Ãhf;lfycrjv rjltrct. Ýnj b nht,jdfybz
r rjvgktrnyjcnb, nht,jdfybz r fccjhnbvtyne, r gjcktlcndbzv ytgthtlfxb
njdfhf gjnht,bntk. b n.l. Âct 'nb djghjcs gj ,jkmijve cxtne djghjcs
ctujlyz ehtuekbhjdfys.
Ålbycndtyyjt c njxrb phtybz cjjnyjitybz yjhv ÃÊ b pfrjyf j pfobnt ghfd
gjnht,bntkz ckf,jt pdtyj, rjnjhjt ctujlyz ghbcencndetn d wtgjxrt 'nb[
jnyjitybq, pfrk.xftncz d njv, xnj jncencndetn jndtncndtyyjcnm ghjlfdwf
pf ytgthtlfxe njdfhf, ghbj,htntyyjuj gjnht,bntktv. Â njv xbckt,
cdzpfyye. c ljcnfdrjq njdfhf. Óckjdyj ujdjhz, ds ghbikb d cnfwbjyfhysq
vfufpby, ds regbkb [jkjlbkmybr b dfv crfpfkb, xnj pfdnhf tuj ghbdtpen
bkb ghbdtpen ctujlyz dtxthjv. Âfv tuj yt dtpen. Ätym, ldf, nhb, xtnsht,
gznm, itcnm, ctvm b n.l. Ñtujlyz gj pfrjye ghjlfdtw yt ytctn
jndtncndtyyjcnb pf 'nj gj cnfnmt 23 pfrjyf ("Îndtncndtyyjcnm ghjlfdwf pf ghjchjxre dsgjkytybz nht,jdfybq gjnht,bntkz" – ghbv.htl.),
ytn ytecnjqrb, rjnjhfz dscnegfkf ,s lkz ghjlfdwf cnbvekbhe.obv afrnjhjv
lkz gthtlfxb njdfhf. È pltcm djpybrftn lbktvvf: tckb vs jnnfkrbdftvcz
jn j,ob[ gjkj;tybq ÃÊ, djpvj;yj kbim jlby bp lde[ dfhbfynjd hfpdbnbz
cj,snbq. Èkb gjnht,bntkm ,eltn nht,jdfnm bcgjkytybz d jnyjitybb tuj
j,zpfyyjcnb gthtlfnm njdfh xthtp cel, bkb jy ,eltn d njv ;t cfvjv
celt,yjv gjhzlrt nht,jdfnm hfcnjh;tybz 'njuj ljujdjhf b djpdhfnf,
egkfxtyys[ tve ltytu, djpvj;yj c e,snrfvb, tckb jyb nfrjdst ,elen
djpybrfnm d lfyyjv ckexft, cdzpfyyst c ytgthtlfxtq njdfhf. Âc¸.
Íbrfrjuj lheujuj dfhbfynf pltcm ,snm yt vj;tn.
 ghbywbgt dct djghjcs ctujlyz ehtuekbhjdfys, lheujt ltkj, xnj 'nb
vt[fybpvs yt dctulf hf,jnf.n. È "ckf,jt pdtyj" e yfc tot pfrk.xftncz d
ckf,jq hf,jnt celt,ys[ jhufyjd, gjnjve xnj, r cj;fktyb., ctujlyz ytn
ljdthbz e uhf;lfy r celt,ysv bycnfywbzv. Åckb ,s cels yfib hf,jnfkb
,jktt 'aatrnbdyj b, ukfdyjt, ,jktt jgthfnbdyj ghbybvfkb ,s htitybz –
[jnz ,s d ecnfyjdktyyst chjrb – vs ,s vyjub[ ghj,ktv ctujlyz ghjcnj yt
,skj ,s. Íj, r cj;fktyb., 'nj – jnltkmyfz ,jktpym yfitq cbcntvs.
Ñj dhtvtyb ghjdtltybz II rjyathtywbb "Ýktrnhjyyfz njhujdkz",
yf rjnjhjq ,sk ghtlcnfdkty 'njn ljrkfl, vyjujt bpvtybkjcm. Õjnbnt
dkfltnm frnefkmyjq byajhvfwbtq? Ít njkmrj epyfnm ,jkmit, yj b
j,vtyznmcz jgsnjv c rjkktufvb, pfdtcnb gjktpyst pyfrjvcndf b gjkexbnm
ljcnjdthyst lfyyst lkz hfpdbnbz ,bpytcf?
Ïhecfrjd Îktu Âkflbvbhjdbx, yfxfkmybr Óghfdktybz pfobns ghfd gjnht,bntktq Ðjcgjnht,yflpjhf
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